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Is It Time To Part Company?

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From Investor’s Business Daily

Does U.S. Need To Split Along Political Lines?

Ten years ago I asked the following question in a column titled “It’s Time To Part Company”:
“If one group of people prefers government control and management of people’s lives and another prefers liberty and a desire to be left alone, should they be required to fight, antagonize one another, risk bloodshed and loss of life in order to impose their preferences or should they be able to peaceably part company and go their separate ways?”
The problem that our nation faces is very much like a marriage where one partner has broken, and has no intention of keeping, the marital vows. Of course, the marriage can remain intact and one party tries to impose his will on the other and engage in the deviousness of one-upmanship. Rather than submission by one party or domestic violence, a more peaceable alternative is separation.
I believe we are nearing a point where there are enough irreconcilable differences between those Americans who want to control other Americans and those Americans who want to be left alone that separation is the only peaceable alternative. Just as in a marriage, where vows are broken, our human rights protections guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution have been grossly violated by a government instituted to protect them.
The Democrat-controlled Washington is simply an escalation of a process that has been in full stride for at least two decades. There is no evidence that Americans who are responsible for and support constitutional abrogation have any intention of mending their ways.
You say, “Williams, what do you mean by constitutional abrogation?” Let’s look at just some of the magnitude of the violations.
Article I, Section 8 of our Constitution lists the activities for which Congress is authorized to tax and spend. Nowhere on that list is authority for Congress to tax and spend for: prescription drugs, Social Security, public education, farm subsidies, bank and business bailouts, food stamps and other activities that represent roughly two-thirds of the federal budget.
Neither is there authority for congressional mandates to the states and people about how they may use their land, the speed at which they can drive, whether a library has wheelchair ramps and the gallons of water used per toilet flush.
The list of congressional violations of both the letter and spirit of the Constitution is virtually without end. Our derelict Supreme Court has given Congress sanction to do anything upon which they can muster a majority vote.
James Madison, the acknowledged father of the Constitution, explained in Federalist Paper No. 45: “The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce.
“The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives and liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement and prosperity of the State.”
Americans who wish to live free have several options. We can submit to those who have constitutional contempt and want to run our lives. We can resist, fight and risk bloodshed and death in an attempt to force America’s tyrants to respect our liberties and human rights. We can seek a peaceful resolution of our irreconcilable differences by separating.
Some independence movements, such as our 1776 war with England and our 1861 War Between the States, have been violent, but they need not be. In 1905, Norway seceded from Sweden; Panama seceded from Columbia (1903), and West Virginia from Virginia (1863). Nonetheless, violent secession can lead to great friendships. England is probably our greatest ally.
The bottom-line question for all of us is: Should we part company or continue trying to forcibly impose our wills on one another? My preference is a restoration of the constitutional values of limited government that made us a great nation.

Written by James Lagnese

April 9, 2010 at 5:38 am

Texas and Perry Do It Again

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Texas Governor Rick Perry turned it up a notch. All I have to say is God bless Texas and Perry. Listen here. I wonder if Janet Napolitano will pay him a visit? At this point I doubt it. She’s already pissed off a lot of people.
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Written by James Lagnese

April 15, 2009 at 4:42 pm

The Secessionist Movement

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Some right wing and libertarian blogs are discussing possible secession of certain states should Obama win. Secession is nothing new. Wyoming had a secession movement in the 1930’s for a portion of that state, as well as parts of Montana and South Dakota to become Absaroka. We also have other secession movements like Aztlan and La Raza (reconquista), which some say has it’s roots in Mexico’s intellectual elites. While I am not promulgating these prospects, I’d like to discuss the possibilities with anyone that is interested. Can you imagine the effects of an Obama presidency resulting in people wanting to secede or even leave the country, or is it a bunch of hoohah by a bunch of tinfoil hat wearing nuts? I have no dog in the hunt yet, but I’d like to hear from you. 


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Written by James Lagnese

October 31, 2008 at 6:43 pm

The Secessionist Movement

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Some right wing and libertarian blogs are discussing possible secession of certain states should Obama win. Secession is nothing new. Wyoming had a secession movement in the 1930’s for a portion of that state, as well as parts of Montana and South Dakota to become Absaroka. We also have other secession movements like Aztlan and La Raza (reconquista), which some say has it’s roots in Mexico’s intellectual elites. While I am not promulgating these prospects, I’d like to discuss the possibilities with anyone that is interested. Can you imagine the effects of an Obama presidency resulting in people wanting to secede or even leave the country, or is it a bunch of hoohah by a bunch of tinfoil hat wearing nuts? I have no dog in the hunt yet, but I’d like to hear from you. 


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Written by James Lagnese

October 31, 2008 at 6:43 pm

Secession – Will the South rise again?

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Last week, I talked about a talk show host’s forum I am a member where a member used a confederate flag in his signature. Read it here. I was perusing another forum after the debate last night and I came across some of the same non-sense. This time it was a person from Arkansas and they were talking about secession if Obama gets in, particularly with Texas, Oklahoma and anther person suggested Arizona. One, what these dolts do not realize is that it will never happen, but just for arguments sake, lets say we relive the Fort Sumpter fiasco and what followed. If they think fighting the Union was rough, wait until they face M-1 Abrams tanks and attack craft such as helicopters that have FLIR. They have no clue what they are up against. It would make the Georgia-Russian engagement look like a prolonged conflict. 

The other thing they are not counting on is the utter fecklessness of the american people. If nearly half are voting for Der Fuhrer, it would seem at least half would already be against them. As much as I think that we are going to hell in a hand basket, I do not believe the time has come to secede or to dig a hole in my back yard and build a shelter, and save enough food to last a millennia. May be their time would be better spent trying to work within the system to change it. I just don’t think we are at the point where anyone can rationally suggest secession or revolution. 
Back to the idiots online. Last week I withheld what board I was on when I encountered the confederate flag. I will tell you now. It was Glenn Beck’s Insider Forum. You see I am a “Glenn Beck Insider,” and I lurk in the forums, commenting once in a while. I have to say I was quite shocked to see a confederate flag used in a signature on Glenn’s forum and more surprised that he doesn’t give a damn. I did send a PM to the moderators and an email to Glenn, but I received no response. I guess Glenn & Co. agree with Nero and Chung. I expected more from Glenn, but he’s a busy guy, I know. 
Let me be clear: You cannot justify a position on states rights and/or secession by flying the confederate flag. You also cannot divorce slavery from that symbol too. If you support that symbol, it’s de facto that you support everything that goes along with  it. Please, don’t give me some diatribe about the agrarian south being threatened and abused by the industrial north. It was about the south’s view that slavery be legal in new states that entered the union, that slavery was a states rights issue. That like arguing in Hitler’s Germany, if a company came out with a new oven, it had to be able to cook jews in it. It’s insane. Why these missing links support slavery in 2008, I have no idea. 
The other Forum that I found genetic throwbacks on was Anne Coulter’s forum. This is not as much a surprise, and at this point, considering who she is, it’s not even worth the trouble. So the question remains, should states secede if Obama gets in? My answer is no, not yet. I think we can survive one Obama administration, even with a democrat congress. If they do their worst, then come and talk to me, if I am still here. Prudence and vigilance is needed here, not excessive hysteria. I am not ready to go over the cliff yet. Besides, it’s not Novembet 5 yet. 
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Written by James Lagnese

October 8, 2008 at 8:57 am

Secession – Will the South rise again?

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Last week, I talked about a talk show host’s forum I am a member where a member used a confederate flag in his signature. Read it here. I was perusing another forum after the debate last night and I came across some of the same non-sense. This time it was a person from Arkansas and they were talking about secession if Obama gets in, particularly with Texas, Oklahoma and anther person suggested Arizona. One, what these dolts do not realize is that it will never happen, but just for arguments sake, lets say we relive the Fort Sumpter fiasco and what followed. If they think fighting the Union was rough, wait until they face M-1 Abrams tanks and attack craft such as helicopters that have FLIR. They have no clue what they are up against. It would make the Georgia-Russian engagement look like a prolonged conflict. 

The other thing they are not counting on is the utter fecklessness of the american people. If nearly half are voting for Der Fuhrer, it would seem at least half would already be against them. As much as I think that we are going to hell in a hand basket, I do not believe the time has come to secede or to dig a hole in my back yard and build a shelter, and save enough food to last a millennia. May be their time would be better spent trying to work within the system to change it. I just don’t think we are at the point where anyone can rationally suggest secession or revolution. 
Back to the idiots online. Last week I withheld what board I was on when I encountered the confederate flag. I will tell you now. It was Glenn Beck’s Insider Forum. You see I am a “Glenn Beck Insider,” and I lurk in the forums, commenting once in a while. I have to say I was quite shocked to see a confederate flag used in a signature on Glenn’s forum and more surprised that he doesn’t give a damn. I did send a PM to the moderators and an email to Glenn, but I received no response. I guess Glenn & Co. agree with Nero and Chung. I expected more from Glenn, but he’s a busy guy, I know. 
Let me be clear: You cannot justify a position on states rights and/or secession by flying the confederate flag. You also cannot divorce slavery from that symbol too. If you support that symbol, it’s de facto that you support everything that goes along with  it. Please, don’t give me some diatribe about the agrarian south being threatened and abused by the industrial north. It was about the south’s view that slavery be legal in new states that entered the union, that slavery was a states rights issue. That like arguing in Hitler’s Germany, if a company came out with a new oven, it had to be able to cook jews in it. It’s insane. Why these missing links support slavery in 2008, I have no idea. 
The other Forum that I found genetic throwbacks on was Anne Coulter’s forum. This is not as much a surprise, and at this point, considering who she is, it’s not even worth the trouble. So the question remains, should states secede if Obama gets in? My answer is no, not yet. I think we can survive one Obama administration, even with a democrat congress. If they do their worst, then come and talk to me, if I am still here. Prudence and vigilance is needed here, not excessive hysteria. I am not ready to go over the cliff yet. Besides, it’s not Novembet 5 yet. 
Thank you for reading this blog. 

Written by James Lagnese

October 8, 2008 at 8:57 am